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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 04:34 am Post subject:
"S.C. Gov. Mark Sanford’s staff said late Monday that the governor is hiking on the Appalachian Trail, ending four days during which staff and state officials said they had not heard from him.
Neither Sanford’s office nor the State Law Enforcement Division, which provides security for governors, had been able to reach Sanford since he left the mansion Thursday in a black Suburban SUV assigned to his security detail, said state Sen. Jake Knotts , R-Lexington, and three others familiar with the situation, but who declined to be identified.
Joel Sawyer, the governor’s spokesman would not disclose where on the trail the governor was hiking, nor would he reveal whether Sanford was hiking alone."
Geez Louise, you'd think a guy could get a little quality time away with his boy friend...but no, everyone's trying to butt in to poor Mark's business.
“Governor Sanford called to check in with his chief of staff this morning. It would be fair to say the governor was somewhat taken aback by all of the interest this trip has gotten,” spokesman Joel Sawyer said in a statement.
Huffington Post notes that Stanford’s choice of destination, the Appalachian Trail, will receive $650,000 in economic stimulus funds for improvements. Stanford, a fiscal conservative, was one of the most vocal opponents of President Barack Obama’s $787 billion economic stimulus package, but he ultimately lost his battle to turn away funds directed toward South Carolina. Once
The press statements from his office were, in classic conservative fashion, complete bullshit.
He was in Buenos Aires. The search for boyfriends and/or hookers now shifts in that direction. Why? Conservatives hold themselves out as having higher moral standards than us other humans. When they fall they make bigger splashes. They fall so often that there is now a general presumption that they are adulterers, closeted homophobic homosexuals, and/or pedophiles.
Happy hunting everybody! Buena suerte!
Step one, find his hotel in Buenos Aires.
Step two. Talk to the concierge.
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Mark Sanford is back! And the weird tale of a disappearing governor has ended. The South Carolina governor was in Buenos Aires, he said, greeted by a reporter for The State (SC newspaper) in the Atlanta airport this morning.
So it was a girl friend, not a boy friend. Could be a step up for the Republicans....oh, sorry, Delta, I'm rubbing it in, aren't I? I'll stop snickering and just observe that, if someone finds Governor Palin in bed with David Letterman, the 2012 Presidential election is complete toast.
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8) How could it be any bigger than the semen on the blue dress, and the statement under oath" I did not have sex with that woman" There you go. Clinton's definition of oral sex differs from mine quite a lot. When I was lucky enough to get it, it was sex to me.
I understand that in the planned next Star Trek movie, a mysterious new enemy will attack the Federation with much initial success. Conservative pundits of the twenty-third century will complain bitterly that this is possible only because Bill Clinton gutted Star Fleet and ignored terrorism.
Seriously, how long are you guys planning to ride the "but what about Clinton" defense?
I understand that in the planned next Star Trek movie, a mysterious new enemy will attack the Federation with much initial success. Conservative pundits of the twenty-third century will complain bitterly that this is possible only because Bill Clinton gutted Star Fleet and ignored terrorism.
Seriously, how long are you guys planning to ride the "but what about Clinton" defense?
I sharply disagree. This has nothing to do with Clinton's actions, it goes to the heart of his motivations. This most recent "hike on the Appalachian Trail" is just another example of how gay marriage is destroying marriage in America. If it were not for gays and lesbians falling in love and establishing deep and lifelong relationships, Gov. Sanford would never have thought of leaving his wife. Similarly, because of his acute emotional sensitivity, President Clinton was deeply affected by the gay revolution in its earliest stages. Gays too, made him break his marriage vows.
This attack on the sanctity of marriage must stop! We need to protect people like the beloved Governor, President Clinton, and Republican Congressmen and Senators (too numerous to name) from exposure to gay rights, and all of the devastating effects those "rights" have on marriages all around America!
So it was too with John McCain and Newt Gingrich in earlier days. Long before "gay marriage" was recognized for its harmful effects, these two happily married (not to each other!) men inadvertently shook hands with homosexuals while campaigning. Whether the harmful contacts by the "gays" were intentional or part of a larger plot will never be known. But it is safe to assume that gay cooties were transmitted in those handshakes, which promptly led to the destruction of those lovely marriages.
Happily, African American men are almost totally immune from gay cooties. That's why President Obama is on his way to a State visit with the Pope, while conservative Senators slink off in the droves to foreign lands and public restrooms for their illicit and immoral trysts. They have no choice. They are under the spell of the gays.
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8) How could it be any bigger than the semen on the blue dress, and the statement under oath" I did not have sex with that woman" There you go. Clinton's definition of oral sex differs from mine quite a lot. When I was lucky enough to get it, it was sex to me.
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 01:01 pm Post subject:
Dan Balz of the Washington Post had a amusing quote from John Weaver, McCain's buddy and strategist, this morning:
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John Weaver, a longtime GOP strategist, said: "The voters have chosen new management [in the White House] for a reason, and this just reinforces it. It just makes the hill a little steeper for us." Looking toward 2012, Weaver joked, "At this rate, if you're a junior Jaycees president in Memphis, you could be in line for the nomination."
And I agree with David; good for you for jumping in DeltaJudge. Even if it was with the rather lame "But Clinton was bad too" argument.
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 05:43 pm Post subject: "They are bad, too" is not a good defense.
DeltaJudge:
I also take issue with your "But they do it too" comment. This is the kind of statement that was used to defend President Clinton. It was poor argument then and is a poor argument today.
Clinton committed civil contempt, lied under oath before a federal judge, committed an attorney ethical violation and paid a fine and lost his law license. The Clinton case was not about sex or an affair although his supporters were successfully able to spin it that way. The Clinton case was about lying under oath and the sanctions he received at the end of his term were a tardy vindication for those that had been trying to make that point all along.
The problem for Republicans and "Christian Conservatives" is hypocracy. They need to stop all this chest pounding about being better than everyone else. I don't have time to list all the hypocrites that have been uncovered in the Republican/Conservative ranks in the last few years.
Democrats don't purport to live at a higher moral standard than the rest of us. As my sister, a staunch Clinton supporter, once commented on the blue dress "we knew he was a dog so what's the big deal." Bill Clinton may have been a bald faced lier but he was no hypocrite.
We have a good example of this in Louisiana right now. Republican Senator David Vitter, a longtime "family values" proponent, was connected to a prostitution ring. Hypocrite. On the other hand, former Democratic congressman William Jefferson (known as "Dollar Bill" in this area) is on trial for corruption. To his credit, Bill Jefferson never made a big deal about his personal honesty. A dishonest man, perhaps, but at least not a hypocrite. _________________ Crescent City a/k/a Troll
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 09:35 pm Post subject:
I think I get it - if you say character is important and you do wrong you are screwed. John Edwards placed himself up as Husband of the year and he was scewered but not by the general media media at first - it took grocery store papers. I really do not care if there is a double standard - there just seems to be one.
BTW we have the wife of a state representative in a bit of trouble..
It is not hard to find trouble if you look - and all attributable to a bite from the apple by Adam - OK I digress. We are all human and I suppose we should not take any great pleasure on anyone's troubles regardless as to if there is a (D) or a (R) after their name. That old cast the first stone parable I suppose and do not forget about glass houses.
I'm glad you are finally beginning to get it. I've done a lot of campaigning and politicking in the last year, before and after the presidential election. What I've found from those who take the Fox news, Republican line, is a consistent look-down-the nose tone. They claim with greater knowledge on the importance of life, liberty, national security, and so on. I've been screamed at, insulted, had doors slammed, and been called a nigger-lover. All by those who have the "high moral ground." I've heard locker room talk in the last month at the YMCA by these conservative wizards about how Obama's mother should have had an abortion because she was married to a black. My experience is not unique. In fact, it is national in scope. When such pompous asses fall into their own personal Hells, I look on with no remorse. Like democrats have for years, I'll throw them a rope and help them climb out of Hell, but for the time being I'm not running to get the rope.
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Clinton impeachment manager: GOP should lose "stinking rot of self-righteousness"
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 at 02:20:07 PM PDT
One of the Clinton impeachment managers wises up:
But with his governor now felled by similar temptations, Inglis sees an opening for the Republican Party, a chance to "lose the stinking rot of self-righteousness" and "to understand we are all in need of some grace."
This is not "Bob Inglis 1.0," the one that was a "self-righteous" expletive, he said in an interview with Washington Wire today. [...]
Indeed, Sanford’s political fall could be a saving grace for what remains of his governorship, Inglis suggested. "This may be an opportunity to extend a little grace to other people, to realize that maybe it’s not 100% this way or that way," Inglis said.
Like the Taliban and Islamic fundamentalists, conservatives seek to impose their morality on the rest of us via governmental coercion (legislation and the bully pulpit). They are incapable of minding their own business, and seek to stick their noses into peoples' bedrooms and doctor offices. Yet time and time again, their relentless moralizing is proven to be hypocritical grandstanding, as they are unable to meet even the lowest of bars they try to impose on others.
We don't care if Republicans want to f*ck around on their wives and husbands. Those are private affairs. Yet Republicans seek to criminalize such behavior in a bid for votes and social approbation.
So yeah, we'll laugh and mock when Republicans are busted as hypocrites. If you want to make "family values" the centerpiece of your political persona, then don't ditch your kids on Father's Day to f*ck your mistress! That so many conservatives have rules prohibiting themselves from being alone with women is telling -- they demand those rules to keep themselves in check, and meanwhile assume the rest of society is also as weak-willed as they are. Witness what Sanford said:
But I'm here because if you were to look at God's laws, they're in every instance designed to protect people from themselves.
I don't need god to tell me not to f*ck around on my wife, nor a chaperone to prevent it. If you need God's law and chaperones to keep your libido in check, all the power to you, but that's your problem, not mine. Keep government out of it.
But they won't, and they'll never learn, and Inglis' words of newfound wisdom will fall on deaf ears inside his party. And inevitably, the party of "family values" will regularly offer up hypocrites for us to mock
. openthread, Daily Kos: State of the Nation, at http://www.dailykos.com/main/2 (last visited June 26, 2009). _________________ David Traver
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Adam should have stuck with the PCs. God hates Apple. _________________ David Traver
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I always thought f*ck was supposed to be capitalized...
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I don't need god to tell me not to f*ck around on my wife, nor a chaperone to prevent it.
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 08:44 pm Post subject:
I have re-read the thread and I am lost - we have gone to a debate as if f*ck is capitalized or not. I suppose it is if you are being talked about or actually doing it. I do not think this was covered in school - JOA where are you when we need you for a policy expertise on the proper use of the word? The Eddie Murphy of the 80s might know.
Good point! It might depend on whether you are using it as a verb or a noun. And since, in this case, it followed a non-capitalized god in the sentence - it might not be appropriate to capitalize F*ck unless you also capitalize God.
That, of course, cannot be covered in school, because you can't mention god / God - so you could only discuss f*ck / F*ck with no point of reference from which to know whether to capitalize it or not.
Grammar has a way of becoming complicated once you get beyond Dick and Jane.
By the way, are Dick and Jane signing up for Social Security with Patty Duke?
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I have re-read the thread and I am lost - we have gone to a debate as if f*ck is capitalized or not. I suppose it is if you are being talked about or actually doing it. I do not think this was covered in school - JOA where are you when we need you for a policy expertise on the proper use of the word? The Eddie Murphy of the 80s might knkow.
The reason I am slow to answer you plaintive cry is that I don’t often look at the political threads.
The easy and uninteresting answer is that the customary practice is to capitalize proper nouns, not improper verbs; or for that matter, any verbs at all.
But if we allow ourselves to follow a particular styles that we admire, then there's another and more interesting way to think about how we should deploy capitals. This might even be pertinent not only to this thread as well but much other political commentary as well.
For some decades now Winnie-the-Pooh has been a frequent bedside companion. So I'm in a position to say that although a Bear of Very Little Brain (here, capitals signal a title or award), it will happen occasionally that when Winnie-the-Pooh achieves a particular insight, he will signal its significance with capitals. Thus, when he finally understood that he and Piglet had been following their own pawmarks in the snow and had not tracking an ever-increasing number of Woozles, it came to him that "I have been Foolish and Deluded."
Eeyore has a practice that while not identical, is still similar for the way he capitalizes particularly portentous pronouncements. As when his tail went missing:
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"Somebody must have taken it," said Eeyore. "How Like Them."
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:01 pm Post subject:
Absolutely right! I had forgotten the capital letters in Winnie the Pooh. (That's what happens when you have last read them to your kids some....20 plus years ago. I'm tempted to add an editorial comment about how useful it would be to have grandkids to read Winnie to now...but I should resist, and will.)
The selective use of caps, much like the selective use of split infinitives, is a high art, I think, one to be aspired to but not abused.
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